This thing of holding Canadians hostage by striking during the Holidays also doesn't garner public sympathy. We're not the problem here but they use us as leverage which is unacceptable. I don't doubt it's the many useless middle-managers and execs making poor decisions either. Like the CBC or public health agencies.
The bureaucracy needs a cool culling. And stop sending money and grants to people who social engineer forcing entities like Canada Post to get in on the DEI/climate change act.
Canada Post is subjected to the ideological whims of its boss and so it wastes money on toys like EVs. I don't see FedEx or UPS doing that. Or the many smaller private carriers. No one has time to charge when shit has to get done fast.
I have no doubt that privatizing Canada Post would quickly make it a more profitable part of the industry. Hmm anyone see a common thread due to being a government run and funded entity?
Unions show how shitty they actually are when workers go on strike. I honestly didn't care, or know how poorly Canada Post was ran as a company. Now, with what seems to be pure greed exposes it for what's its worth.
It is not tax payer funded. In the early 80's they were to be self sufficient by the products they sell. If they did get money from the government, it was a loan to pay back. All the profit made was given to the government treasury. That being said, the union is outdated. You don't get your money worth.
Yup i don’t see a future i unions. however shel i have a really good sister works for can post. and there bitch is really about the multiple layers of middle management supervisors have supervisors that watch them
I totally get this...but the entire institution of Publicly Funded Mail Delivery needs to be burned to the ground, reconceptualized and rebuilt from there.
I'm not sure they can salvage it from where it sits currently.
I know this isn’t Canada Post stuff but thought these numbers would interest these folks that come on here. The federal health program has blown up to $411M per year for refugees. To provide basic coverage while they are waiting for their case to be heard cost $60M in 2016, due to explosions of folks coming here, walking across Roxham road which was 39,000 in 2022, remember the Liberals promise to shut it down. In 2016 11,000 refugee claims were made to 180,000 this year and the majority are not fleeing persecution but just want a better life. Don’t we all but we don’t break the law to get it. They now process more claims a month than they used to in an entire year. More than half the beds in emergency shelters is for refugee claimants, while Canadians, who pay taxes are left on the streets or in encampments. Ottawa is now spending millions for sprung shelters , giant tents, to house refugees. The ON government is spending $1B per year on asylum seekers alone. Yet Canadians can’t get hospital beds or teachers because they haven’t got the funds. Besides this they spend on average $140 a day for hotel rooms and $84 a day for food for each person who crossed over illegally. How many of you spend $84 a day on food, especially seniors on fixed incomes, who have to access food banks or starve. Maybe they should walk across the border so they can have the same quality of life as an illegal. And on top of that 14,000 refugees who are here on student visas claim statis when they come. This will take years for that to happen in the meantime, Canadians who have paid taxes their whole life, can’t get dr, are going bankrupt, can’t heat their homes, afford gas to go to their jobs, I don’t know about you, I wish everyone could get a hand up but not at the expense of the folks who have lived here their entire lives and funded this country, Trudeau bragged people are leaving Canada what he forgot to mention the ones leaving, including newcomers have degrees or are skilled. They are going to the US where even the four poorest states beat Canadas best provinces for standard of living. Staying here is no path for young people who want to make a good, safe life. And they don’t even put the stats out for how much policing is costing Canadians , to try and feel safe in their own country
Great article, definitely do not need government unions, they had their place years ago, since Covid they have proven they are not there for the worker. They would not have mandated bio weapons on their union members. How is it that Canada Post lost money, would be the Trudeau regime. Remember we have no more greyhound, took that out years ago, just like BC Tree Fruits, going bankrupt, yet is a co-op. Trudeau's only goal is to destroy every business in Canada, burn Canada to the ground. He is going a great job.
So this is what I learned from my friendly neighbourhood postal workers on their fifth day being locked out of their workplace...huddling in the cold.
- postal workers in Canada are represented by a number of unions. Only CUPW workers are on strike, but since the major mail sorting plants are in the hands of CUPW, there is no mail being sorted EXCEPT for government issued cheques. The workers are still allowed to be on the job site in order to get those cheques into people's hands as the union doesn't want undue hardship pushed on Canadians. Workers at other locations who belong to other unions are coming to work but without sorted mail, they have not much to do!!
- Canada Post is a crown corporation that runs on its own funds. It doesn't get taxpayer money and makes enough money so that the CEO and all the top brass can get hefty bonuses. This does not trickle down to the regular postal worker.
- CUPW members had a contract that ran out in 2021. Due to COVID, it was just extended by 2 years without any increase to account for cost of living...
- since fall 2023 Canada Post has not negotiated any deal with the workers to ensure that they pay is commensurate with others in the courier/parcel/mail delivery business.
- because Canada Post is a corporation (even though it is a crown corporation) it runs its own business practices but it has the legal obligation, to serve Canadians all over, regardless of remoteness, which private delivery companies do not have.
- the claim by upper management that they are going broke is seen by workers as absolute bogus. Where the package/parcel delivery driver had 65 scannable items on a busy day before Covid, she now has had 650 on a single day. Volume of mail is going up (due to parcel delivery).
- Workers see lots of examples of mismanagement of funds as the REAL reason the corporation keeps saying it is losing money. Examples: a whole fleet of electric trucks sitting on parking lots, not being allocated to anyone's route. If they sit idle much longer, they will all need their batteries replaced. - The top heavy upper management (and the bonuses it is getting) - Renovating postal outlet buildings and replacing banks of mailboxes with new ones when neither are not necessary - etc.
- Canada Post has majority shares in Purolator courier company -- where the delivery staff and sorting staff are paid significantly more than at Canada Post. Purolator staff drive company trucks. The majority of Canada Post parcel delivery drivers need to a) provide their own vehicle b) carry their own insurance c) pay for their own vehicle upkeep, maintenance and repair costs d) get a vehicle allowance that does not even cover the cost of fuel. So in essence, in order to work as a delivery driver for Canada Post, employees SUBSIDIZE THEIR JOBS. This has not been addressed for years.
- Canada Post has not contributed the employer share to the company pension fund for a number of years.
- Canada Post wants to pay new employees lower rates than the industry norm with a much slower rate of progression to top wage status. T
- it sounds like Canada Post is only hiring new people on part time schedules. As a result, people needing full time employment need to supplement with additional work, which has an impact on service because there is less consistency on the job.
- Canada Post also wants to start a new pension fund for new employees and poach monies from the existing pension fund into the new fund. Long time workers are worried their pension fund will not be sustainable by the time they retire.
- Also increasingly letter carriers need to sort mail as they walk as it is not coming arranged by street/address, which was the regular state of affairs before. This significantly lengthens the postal delivery people's exposure to the elements.
- Our local office has been understaffed for a long time, which local staff say is not fair to the customers who need to stand in long line-ups for service and to the workers who need to keep doing work both in the front and the back of the office, when there is full time work in both locations.
- the workers I spoke with are happy that their union "has their backs" (i.e. giving them $56 strike pay for each they they spend 4 hours on the picket line) and they wish that pressure can be put on the CEO to negotiate in good faith and to not misrepresent the situation.
- the workers I spoke with worry that the CEO will continue to mismanage funds (wasting them on unneeded expenses) in order to make it a money losing enterprise with the end aim of privatizing it.
- the workers find that coverage of their situation in the mainstream media is not balanced and that people are not hearing the things they shared with me.
- the workers did not choose to have s strike just before Christmas. The dates are factors of "cooling off periods" etc. and are tied to when the original contract ran out. The local workers do say though that if the strike had happened at any other time, the chances that public pressure would lead to a resolution are a lot lower and they would most likely be out indefinitely.
The bigger government gets- the bigger government gets. It will never stop. You have to say NO. It’s your money after all. Hoping more Canadians wake up sooner rather than later!
If we had competition it would be less relevant, but many online businesses use Canada Post for shipping, especially on smaller items. If your business depends on those sales, it may be enough to put you out of business. We need competition in mail delivery services. That's what we really need.
I HAVE noticed, having to order a credit card replacement just before this strike!! Why in god’s name haven’t we got away from crucial services being provided by corporate Canada service?
A Canadian delivery business would do much better!! No need for arbitration, unions&strikes!!
Parcel delivery dropped by 6 M parcels. Anyone who has ever been foolish enough to send a parcel thru Canada Post knows it’s expensive, slower than snails, many don’t trust their letters or cards aren’t taken rather than lost in the mail, like they use for excuses. In our community two years ago a women postal worker started stealing parcels and put them in a large shed she had. When the story was broken, everyone was surprised no info was being put out, then folks that knew her found out, she wasn’t even charged at first with theft, then we heard she had a court date. Despite many trying to find out what’s happened with this case, seems the info being kept secret. The crazy thing people found out Canada post said none of the stuff found was of importance, or some not even opened. Now people here won’t use Canada Post to send parcels because if they disappear, no one can trust you will get the truth or the one who stole stuff will ever face justice. I could care less if they fold this business, and they want to go into the financial business, yah just who I would want to have their hands on my money.
This thing of holding Canadians hostage by striking during the Holidays also doesn't garner public sympathy. We're not the problem here but they use us as leverage which is unacceptable. I don't doubt it's the many useless middle-managers and execs making poor decisions either. Like the CBC or public health agencies.
The bureaucracy needs a cool culling. And stop sending money and grants to people who social engineer forcing entities like Canada Post to get in on the DEI/climate change act.
Canada Post is subjected to the ideological whims of its boss and so it wastes money on toys like EVs. I don't see FedEx or UPS doing that. Or the many smaller private carriers. No one has time to charge when shit has to get done fast.
I have no doubt that privatizing Canada Post would quickly make it a more profitable part of the industry. Hmm anyone see a common thread due to being a government run and funded entity?
Unions show how shitty they actually are when workers go on strike. I honestly didn't care, or know how poorly Canada Post was ran as a company. Now, with what seems to be pure greed exposes it for what's its worth.
It is not tax payer funded. In the early 80's they were to be self sufficient by the products they sell. If they did get money from the government, it was a loan to pay back. All the profit made was given to the government treasury. That being said, the union is outdated. You don't get your money worth.
Really fun to read!
I think many people are relieved to not have to check the mail every day.
Maybe the lack of coupons will also discourage the consumption of fast food to some degree
That couldn't hurt some people
Yup i don’t see a future i unions. however shel i have a really good sister works for can post. and there bitch is really about the multiple layers of middle management supervisors have supervisors that watch them
watch there supervisors
I totally get this...but the entire institution of Publicly Funded Mail Delivery needs to be burned to the ground, reconceptualized and rebuilt from there.
I'm not sure they can salvage it from where it sits currently.
Good point. Unions have no place in a capitalist society
So teamsters long shore man. and every other union which all increase the price of import and export costs through the roof must go
Canada Post=Bloated garbage
Like most Crown Corporations...
I know this isn’t Canada Post stuff but thought these numbers would interest these folks that come on here. The federal health program has blown up to $411M per year for refugees. To provide basic coverage while they are waiting for their case to be heard cost $60M in 2016, due to explosions of folks coming here, walking across Roxham road which was 39,000 in 2022, remember the Liberals promise to shut it down. In 2016 11,000 refugee claims were made to 180,000 this year and the majority are not fleeing persecution but just want a better life. Don’t we all but we don’t break the law to get it. They now process more claims a month than they used to in an entire year. More than half the beds in emergency shelters is for refugee claimants, while Canadians, who pay taxes are left on the streets or in encampments. Ottawa is now spending millions for sprung shelters , giant tents, to house refugees. The ON government is spending $1B per year on asylum seekers alone. Yet Canadians can’t get hospital beds or teachers because they haven’t got the funds. Besides this they spend on average $140 a day for hotel rooms and $84 a day for food for each person who crossed over illegally. How many of you spend $84 a day on food, especially seniors on fixed incomes, who have to access food banks or starve. Maybe they should walk across the border so they can have the same quality of life as an illegal. And on top of that 14,000 refugees who are here on student visas claim statis when they come. This will take years for that to happen in the meantime, Canadians who have paid taxes their whole life, can’t get dr, are going bankrupt, can’t heat their homes, afford gas to go to their jobs, I don’t know about you, I wish everyone could get a hand up but not at the expense of the folks who have lived here their entire lives and funded this country, Trudeau bragged people are leaving Canada what he forgot to mention the ones leaving, including newcomers have degrees or are skilled. They are going to the US where even the four poorest states beat Canadas best provinces for standard of living. Staying here is no path for young people who want to make a good, safe life. And they don’t even put the stats out for how much policing is costing Canadians , to try and feel safe in their own country
Great article, definitely do not need government unions, they had their place years ago, since Covid they have proven they are not there for the worker. They would not have mandated bio weapons on their union members. How is it that Canada Post lost money, would be the Trudeau regime. Remember we have no more greyhound, took that out years ago, just like BC Tree Fruits, going bankrupt, yet is a co-op. Trudeau's only goal is to destroy every business in Canada, burn Canada to the ground. He is going a great job.
So this is what I learned from my friendly neighbourhood postal workers on their fifth day being locked out of their workplace...huddling in the cold.
- postal workers in Canada are represented by a number of unions. Only CUPW workers are on strike, but since the major mail sorting plants are in the hands of CUPW, there is no mail being sorted EXCEPT for government issued cheques. The workers are still allowed to be on the job site in order to get those cheques into people's hands as the union doesn't want undue hardship pushed on Canadians. Workers at other locations who belong to other unions are coming to work but without sorted mail, they have not much to do!!
- Canada Post is a crown corporation that runs on its own funds. It doesn't get taxpayer money and makes enough money so that the CEO and all the top brass can get hefty bonuses. This does not trickle down to the regular postal worker.
- CUPW members had a contract that ran out in 2021. Due to COVID, it was just extended by 2 years without any increase to account for cost of living...
- since fall 2023 Canada Post has not negotiated any deal with the workers to ensure that they pay is commensurate with others in the courier/parcel/mail delivery business.
- because Canada Post is a corporation (even though it is a crown corporation) it runs its own business practices but it has the legal obligation, to serve Canadians all over, regardless of remoteness, which private delivery companies do not have.
- the claim by upper management that they are going broke is seen by workers as absolute bogus. Where the package/parcel delivery driver had 65 scannable items on a busy day before Covid, she now has had 650 on a single day. Volume of mail is going up (due to parcel delivery).
- Workers see lots of examples of mismanagement of funds as the REAL reason the corporation keeps saying it is losing money. Examples: a whole fleet of electric trucks sitting on parking lots, not being allocated to anyone's route. If they sit idle much longer, they will all need their batteries replaced. - The top heavy upper management (and the bonuses it is getting) - Renovating postal outlet buildings and replacing banks of mailboxes with new ones when neither are not necessary - etc.
- Canada Post has majority shares in Purolator courier company -- where the delivery staff and sorting staff are paid significantly more than at Canada Post. Purolator staff drive company trucks. The majority of Canada Post parcel delivery drivers need to a) provide their own vehicle b) carry their own insurance c) pay for their own vehicle upkeep, maintenance and repair costs d) get a vehicle allowance that does not even cover the cost of fuel. So in essence, in order to work as a delivery driver for Canada Post, employees SUBSIDIZE THEIR JOBS. This has not been addressed for years.
- Canada Post has not contributed the employer share to the company pension fund for a number of years.
- Canada Post wants to pay new employees lower rates than the industry norm with a much slower rate of progression to top wage status. T
- it sounds like Canada Post is only hiring new people on part time schedules. As a result, people needing full time employment need to supplement with additional work, which has an impact on service because there is less consistency on the job.
- Canada Post also wants to start a new pension fund for new employees and poach monies from the existing pension fund into the new fund. Long time workers are worried their pension fund will not be sustainable by the time they retire.
- Also increasingly letter carriers need to sort mail as they walk as it is not coming arranged by street/address, which was the regular state of affairs before. This significantly lengthens the postal delivery people's exposure to the elements.
- Our local office has been understaffed for a long time, which local staff say is not fair to the customers who need to stand in long line-ups for service and to the workers who need to keep doing work both in the front and the back of the office, when there is full time work in both locations.
- the workers I spoke with are happy that their union "has their backs" (i.e. giving them $56 strike pay for each they they spend 4 hours on the picket line) and they wish that pressure can be put on the CEO to negotiate in good faith and to not misrepresent the situation.
- the workers I spoke with worry that the CEO will continue to mismanage funds (wasting them on unneeded expenses) in order to make it a money losing enterprise with the end aim of privatizing it.
- the workers find that coverage of their situation in the mainstream media is not balanced and that people are not hearing the things they shared with me.
- the workers did not choose to have s strike just before Christmas. The dates are factors of "cooling off periods" etc. and are tied to when the original contract ran out. The local workers do say though that if the strike had happened at any other time, the chances that public pressure would lead to a resolution are a lot lower and they would most likely be out indefinitely.
- Concerned Canadians can contact the office of Jean-Yves Duclos, Minister of Public Services and Procurement (our former health minister during COVID) to put pressure on the CEO of Canada Post to ensure fair working conditions for CP employees. They should NOT be needing to subsidize their jobs just so we can get the mail! https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/jean-yves-duclos(89408)#contact. See https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/our-company/leadership-and-governance/corporate-governance/directors-biographies.page to know who is calling the shots! See https://www.cupw.ca/en/cupw-statement-canada-post-q3-report for th most recent statement from the Union.
Thanks for all this info, too bad the workers didn’t let people know all this, they may have had more sympathy
Sell it already!
The bigger government gets- the bigger government gets. It will never stop. You have to say NO. It’s your money after all. Hoping more Canadians wake up sooner rather than later!
I listened to Dan Dicks Peess for truth say that their employees want paid gender reassignment surgeries. Sick of everyone being effing nuts!! 🙄
If we had competition it would be less relevant, but many online businesses use Canada Post for shipping, especially on smaller items. If your business depends on those sales, it may be enough to put you out of business. We need competition in mail delivery services. That's what we really need.
I HAVE noticed, having to order a credit card replacement just before this strike!! Why in god’s name haven’t we got away from crucial services being provided by corporate Canada service?
A Canadian delivery business would do much better!! No need for arbitration, unions&strikes!!
A business transaction!!
Bought, fulfilled and paid for, BOOM.
Happy customer with goods acquired in hand. :)
Parcel delivery dropped by 6 M parcels. Anyone who has ever been foolish enough to send a parcel thru Canada Post knows it’s expensive, slower than snails, many don’t trust their letters or cards aren’t taken rather than lost in the mail, like they use for excuses. In our community two years ago a women postal worker started stealing parcels and put them in a large shed she had. When the story was broken, everyone was surprised no info was being put out, then folks that knew her found out, she wasn’t even charged at first with theft, then we heard she had a court date. Despite many trying to find out what’s happened with this case, seems the info being kept secret. The crazy thing people found out Canada post said none of the stuff found was of importance, or some not even opened. Now people here won’t use Canada Post to send parcels because if they disappear, no one can trust you will get the truth or the one who stole stuff will ever face justice. I could care less if they fold this business, and they want to go into the financial business, yah just who I would want to have their hands on my money.