BCers are the most sheep-like creatures in Canada. We lived there for 15 years so speak with authority on this. 2 fired specialty nurses, when we asked people if they would like to see units closed rather than have unvac nurses the answer was.... and is... yes, yes we would. To a BCer, no care is better than care from someone who won't comply. We left BC a few months ago to go back to the US because honestly, they really are hopeless.
Vancouver is supposed to be a sentinel WEF Smart City. Having seen what these folks are like, it will happen without a whimper.
As has been noted numerous times, there's a big difference between the sheep in Van & Vic versus those in much of the rest of the province. The former is on a long date with Karma.
Same situation is broadly true in US cities & Edmonton/Calgary. It's a "Red-Blue" situation (reversed notation in the two countries).
We were fired from a rural hospital on Van Island..... the unit closed.... and not a whimper from the residents at the loss of care. So ya, maybe I see what you mean but also not. I suspect you are talking about Interior Health where people still believe in freedom. Remember this is where the US draft dodgers settled in the 60s and 70s.
I'm describing the public-at-large, not the gov't regions or policies. Rural citizens have a different character (on average) than those in the larger cities (everywhere, on average).
We've passed through decades of broadly separating actions from consequences in the Western world. That's ended. Consequences inbound. Some just haven't figured that out yet.
Interesting. We live in a very rural place in the US prairies..... and agree overall about Red/Blue with urban/rural. We also notice here that the most Neoliberal place is the University town.
Please note the Vax Mandate and gag order applies to the ENTIRE public sector not just Healthcare workers. This is mandate has absolutely no basis in "protecting the vulnerable at all costs". It is in place to expressly push out any and all dissent and to send an unmistakably clear message that you will obey the NDP masters or be booted out. And the entire Union leadership is 100% on board with it.
With more BC doctors going to Alberta, those of us living in BC will increasingly see more people without a doctor. It is already impossible to find a doctor if you don't already have one. Queen Henry is doing everything she can to destroy our healthcare system in BC!
As a BC resident, I truly believe we are done- for. Here is something interesting though : we have a new neighbour. She is a family doc from Didsbury who 'fled' AB because of what the government there 'has done to healthcare', and that many she is one of many, with more coming. I have suggested in my (unanswered) correspondence to Danielle, that she swap Alberta's NDP docs for BC's unvaccinated docs. Maybe this is happening organically?
I'd be fine in swapping the vaxxers for the truthers.
At this point, anybody that's been paying attention won't go to a doctor who still recommends the jabs nor who boasts about being up-to-date on their punch cards.
Thank-you so much for this excellent report about Britain Columbia and what is actually happening here. Very much appreciated. I cannot understand why any health care professional would want to work in this Province. What's the point in being a doctor if you can no longer function as one. Both Bonnie Henry and Adrian Dix have blood on their hands and hopefully they will be both held accountable for their part in this tragedy they have inflicted on the people of British Columbia. That day can't come soon enough.
In a perfect and just world they would be held accountable for their actions. However, I believe the chances of this happening is not likely. One can always dream for the impossible.
I agree. I just read that BC has just hired Henshaw from Alberta to help out with our medical system! We're never going to get rid of these people. They just get recycled to do more harm. Aaaaaaaggggg
Yes, I saw the new hire to BC and was immediately dejected. Like attracts like, so they say. I would like to move away. That decision is a bit complicated.
Currently, they are throwing away milk while low income families with children go hungry. We are considered a civilized country when I checked a few years ago.
I have been going to the Freedom protests in Vic for close to two years. Tough, tough gig in what I call mass formation central. Vic is dying too, just as Van is (see the documentary Vancouver is Dying on YouTube.
I am waiting for the results of the AB spring election. If the UCP win, highly likely I will move back to AB. BC is toast and will only get worse as more people leave, esp. doctors and other health professionals.
Jan 29, 2023·edited Jan 29, 2023Liked by Sheldon Yakiwchuk
I'm right there with you. In my opinion, it is unequivocal that there is more harm than good from the vaccines for vast sections of the population. However the real world numbers put forward in this article are shit from any perspective, should not be used to draw conclusion, and are at best observations. I'm not casting shade on the author, because he's putting forward the best data that we have (not transparent/not adjudicated/shit).
But to make a point, the "Cases" validated by PCR are a tiny fraction of the real world cases. There is so much uncertainty in the case # that it is impossible to calculate with CFR with certainty. For example if we were to multiply the cases by 100x, the CFR drops by that same factor.
Similarly as we know there are so many known cofounders, such as age, co-morbidities, etc. The data above does not adjust for that to make comparisons. Similarly because this is raw observational data there are confounders we don't know. That is the whole point of running randomized controlled studies - to remove confounders to isolate the effect of an intervention.
None of that is being done of course, and we are living through a dystopian circus of centralized socialist medicine. The decisions being made on this data are as good as tossing bones. Decisions are being made on ideology, and what a few in power wish to be true (not what is true). All of this builds in hubris and punishment from the outset.
Real world data is good when it suits the policy makers' agenda, but real world data of equal or better quality is ignored, hidden, or discarded when it doesn't.
It is astounding that today policy makers and their henchmen block ivermectin. The data for ivermectin is as good or better than that of the vaccines for improving the outcomes that matter. There is absolutely NO justification for this. The contradictions built into this policy are ridiculous and definitively expose the whole scam that continues.
I'd addressed both of your concerns throughout the 2 articles, one from BC and one from Alberta, linked in this substack.
The stats are all bullshit. Less testing does find less cases...but this is the same data that's been used to drive fear into the population of Canada and their respective provinces...and it's never met with what they've said...this is basically the entire premise of my substack, disproving the narrative through the provided data.
What does hold true is that the same analytics were used to assess mortality throughout the last 3 years and the fact that it shows more deaths following jabs is very important. Add to this, though the testing averages dropped, as I've shown in the AB version, there is a massive uptick in mortality following the bivalent jabs.
FWIW...I do actually agree with you...just need to lay this out so that others have the facts at their fingertips.
Yes, I believe the vaccines are a primary contributing factor to increases in non-COVID deaths, but there are others like opioids, mental health, etc., that were exacerbated during lock-downs. So it is hard to get an entirely clean read on this.
In my mind the mechanism of action resulting in vaccine deaths is entirely plausible, and has been seen in a variety of case reports, but is not yet fully confirmed to make sweeping conclusions. That said, this question is not confirmed because it largely remains taboo. Importantly, those in positions of power who foisted vaccine mandates upon us don't permit (or want) systematic investigation, autopsies, etc.
One of the key defining features of centralized socialist medicine, is that the people who conceive of a health program, also execute the program, and also end up evaluating the program. Low and behold when their evaluation comes in they conclude they did a wonderful job, and need more money. It is diabolical.
The single most important measures of efficacy Number Needed to Treat, and Number Needed to Harm were completely disregarded (or purposefully muted) for three years. These are the only numbers we ever needed to make an informed choice about the necessity of vaccines. It is nice to see this now being talked about more openly.
The punch line is that the risk of serious harm from C19 is vanishingly small for healthy people; and the benefits of vaccines are rare, and rarer than the harms for most people.
These aren't total deaths nor excess mortality...these are the reported deaths for COVID only by BC Health, making this data hugely important.
More COVID Deaths in 2022 than 2020 and 2021 combined...following vaccinations. It doesn't get any clearer than this, my friend.
Tracking the timeline on testing performed shows that around April testing folded...it was in October, following the release of Bivalent Vaccines, that this number began to spike.
Again...I agree with you. The data is and has always been bullshit...but what is available is very telling and kind of terrifying.
Yes we agree. But I don't think it is fair to highlight that there are more C19 deaths and linking that specifically to vaccines as the cause (I'm not defending them). The number of infections has gone through the roof and that is what happens in successive waves. So making up hypothetical numbers if only 5% of the pop was infected wave 1, 20% in wave 2, 80% in wave 3 theoretically the deaths go up. Of course they should go down if the vaccines were actually effective.
My personal belief is that yes the vaccines are causing direct injury of the endothelial inflammation type, and also causing immune susceptibility and this explains many of the deaths. But the spread of disease has also claimed more victims. However, without autopsies to determine definitive cause of death (registered in ICD10 codes and listed on certificate), all of this is VERY hard to unpack.
Excellent article and analysis. Denying the current Covid fatality rates in the boosted population while instituting B.C. bill 36 and still insisting on a vax mandate for healthcare personelle is criminal negligence by B.C. politicians and Public Health Officials
The fact that there isn't an all out rebellion on this is shocking. Enough rage in an already busted system would force this to end in it's tracks...that's not happening.
You are correct on many comments. The numbers in BC are definitely “manipulated” by PH for purposes of creating a FOMO mentality (so, exaggerate V uptake and people will choose to join the crowd AND exaggerate the number of cases and deaths manufacture fear in the, especially urban, population who then run and do as they’re told (for their safety). Sadly, for PH, many non-urbanites or more remote citizens didn’t let fear or FOMO drive their decisions so uptake of V is significantly lower than “reported” in these areas (Queen Bonnie actually implemented greater restrictions for the Okanagan and norther reasons, not for health but to “force” more V uptake).
I believe that many of the medical professionals who practice in northern or remote centres are more likely to move to avoid the unconstitutional Bill 35 requirement for V support (any V the government wants to demand BTW), leaving remote areas EVEN MORE under-serviced for health care and further punishing the non-compliant population.
Urban doctors have, for the most part, bought in and were compliant b/c they have expensive lifestyles that are difficult to replace in another province. PH likely believes they have these doctors, nurses, dentists, physiotherapists, chiropractors, etc (maybe even naturopaths) under their thumbs due to the addiction to financially and living extravagancies (can’t really replace a multimillion dollar home with an ocean and mountain view in North Vancouver with any home in Regina is their expectation).
So, the bill will control the messaging for the higher populated regions where people are more likely to comply WHILE punishing remote professionals and their patients in less compliant regions - WIN-WIN for the autocratic government and their non-elected leader and provincial health civil servants.
I mean...driving up interest rates to the highest in 40 years will have an impact on All classes...making them even more wanting to comply than lose their licenses, jobs and be fined. For those who are professionals but still house poor, it's equally as terrifying as would be to us common folk.
I'd imagine that Healthcare Professionals are not immune to this.
Exactly. People often buy homes to feed their ego and will buy whatever does this at the price their bank said they could finance - meaning that they have to keep working at that salary rate or lose their home. Adding to this for everyone is the reduction of house prices this past year so many owe more on their home than they could sell it for so they can’t sell and move - no equity to buy elsewhere. Doctors aren’t immune to this - especially in bigger cities.
My wife and I gave considered moving from the Fraser Valley to Alberta but our home dropped $200K+ in the past years and prices haven’t dropped proportionately in the areas of Alberta we were considering .. stuck, it seems. How much worse might this be for those actually working and living paycheque to paycheque?
I think you are right... but then again, we were doing temporary work in Nanaimo and got fired from there. Actual colleagues said they are still glad our units shut down from lack of staff than have us unvac.
I suspect you are talking about the pocket of liberty in Interior Health. Keep in mind many US draft dodgers moved there in the 60s and 70s so freedom could be in their blood.
Thank you Yakk. I live in bc (sadly) and yes it’s a fire place for anyone who thinks outside the box. How can I make a donation or become a paid subscriber. Want to support your work.
BCers are the most sheep-like creatures in Canada. We lived there for 15 years so speak with authority on this. 2 fired specialty nurses, when we asked people if they would like to see units closed rather than have unvac nurses the answer was.... and is... yes, yes we would. To a BCer, no care is better than care from someone who won't comply. We left BC a few months ago to go back to the US because honestly, they really are hopeless.
Vancouver is supposed to be a sentinel WEF Smart City. Having seen what these folks are like, it will happen without a whimper.
Not THIS BC'er! But believe me I'd escape if I could.
As has been noted numerous times, there's a big difference between the sheep in Van & Vic versus those in much of the rest of the province. The former is on a long date with Karma.
Same situation is broadly true in US cities & Edmonton/Calgary. It's a "Red-Blue" situation (reversed notation in the two countries).
We were fired from a rural hospital on Van Island..... the unit closed.... and not a whimper from the residents at the loss of care. So ya, maybe I see what you mean but also not. I suspect you are talking about Interior Health where people still believe in freedom. Remember this is where the US draft dodgers settled in the 60s and 70s.
I'm describing the public-at-large, not the gov't regions or policies. Rural citizens have a different character (on average) than those in the larger cities (everywhere, on average).
We've passed through decades of broadly separating actions from consequences in the Western world. That's ended. Consequences inbound. Some just haven't figured that out yet.
Interesting. We live in a very rural place in the US prairies..... and agree overall about Red/Blue with urban/rural. We also notice here that the most Neoliberal place is the University town.
Please note the Vax Mandate and gag order applies to the ENTIRE public sector not just Healthcare workers. This is mandate has absolutely no basis in "protecting the vulnerable at all costs". It is in place to expressly push out any and all dissent and to send an unmistakably clear message that you will obey the NDP masters or be booted out. And the entire Union leadership is 100% on board with it.
If your garbage man says, vaccines aren't working...you'd take it with a grain of salt.
If your healthcare provider says it, it should hold more credibility.
I appreciate that C-36 is specific to the entire public sector but given that a lot of it is healthcare based, prefer to focus on healthcare.
Thanks for the clarity on this though, Kelly.
Others may not be aware.
With more BC doctors going to Alberta, those of us living in BC will increasingly see more people without a doctor. It is already impossible to find a doctor if you don't already have one. Queen Henry is doing everything she can to destroy our healthcare system in BC!
That's why Alberta needs to CRUSH the NDP in Alberta in the upcoming election and completely overhaul our Healthcare System.
These people will kill us all with their incompetence and greed.
A couple related links from this morning
1) UK gov't
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11687675/Army-spied-lockdown-critics-Sceptics-including-Peter-Hitchens-suspected-watched.html
2) CDC Insider comment
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/from-a-centers-for-disease-control
HELP....desperate in BC......
I'm almost wondering if it's too late to save BC...and that's a scary thought itself.
As a BC resident, I truly believe we are done- for. Here is something interesting though : we have a new neighbour. She is a family doc from Didsbury who 'fled' AB because of what the government there 'has done to healthcare', and that many she is one of many, with more coming. I have suggested in my (unanswered) correspondence to Danielle, that she swap Alberta's NDP docs for BC's unvaccinated docs. Maybe this is happening organically?
I'd be fine in swapping the vaxxers for the truthers.
At this point, anybody that's been paying attention won't go to a doctor who still recommends the jabs nor who boasts about being up-to-date on their punch cards.
Thank-you so much for this excellent report about Britain Columbia and what is actually happening here. Very much appreciated. I cannot understand why any health care professional would want to work in this Province. What's the point in being a doctor if you can no longer function as one. Both Bonnie Henry and Adrian Dix have blood on their hands and hopefully they will be both held accountable for their part in this tragedy they have inflicted on the people of British Columbia. That day can't come soon enough.
They'll continue to fight, tooth and nail, to ensure that they are completely isolated from their actions through controlling the conversation.
As word continues to reach more, they're days are hopefully coming to a close.
The only question will remain is, Will the be forced to answer for their crimes?
In a perfect and just world they would be held accountable for their actions. However, I believe the chances of this happening is not likely. One can always dream for the impossible.
Yes court cases started but not holding my breath on that...
I agree. I just read that BC has just hired Henshaw from Alberta to help out with our medical system! We're never going to get rid of these people. They just get recycled to do more harm. Aaaaaaaggggg
Yes, I saw the new hire to BC and was immediately dejected. Like attracts like, so they say. I would like to move away. That decision is a bit complicated.
Currently, they are throwing away milk while low income families with children go hungry. We are considered a civilized country when I checked a few years ago.
https://twitter.com/BushelsPerAcre/status/1620857144777269249
I have been going to the Freedom protests in Vic for close to two years. Tough, tough gig in what I call mass formation central. Vic is dying too, just as Van is (see the documentary Vancouver is Dying on YouTube.
I am waiting for the results of the AB spring election. If the UCP win, highly likely I will move back to AB. BC is toast and will only get worse as more people leave, esp. doctors and other health professionals.
Certainly with the decriminalization of certain drugs, the nails are in BC’s coffin.
But aren't most doctors supportive of this new law?
They surely believe that dissent cannot be tolerated because it causes people to not take the civilization saving Rat Juice.
I know a few doctors here in NZ and that is exactly what they believe.
I doubt there will be an exodus from BC.
Right along with ya! I am sick to my stomach about "Beautiful BC"
I'm right there with you. In my opinion, it is unequivocal that there is more harm than good from the vaccines for vast sections of the population. However the real world numbers put forward in this article are shit from any perspective, should not be used to draw conclusion, and are at best observations. I'm not casting shade on the author, because he's putting forward the best data that we have (not transparent/not adjudicated/shit).
But to make a point, the "Cases" validated by PCR are a tiny fraction of the real world cases. There is so much uncertainty in the case # that it is impossible to calculate with CFR with certainty. For example if we were to multiply the cases by 100x, the CFR drops by that same factor.
Similarly as we know there are so many known cofounders, such as age, co-morbidities, etc. The data above does not adjust for that to make comparisons. Similarly because this is raw observational data there are confounders we don't know. That is the whole point of running randomized controlled studies - to remove confounders to isolate the effect of an intervention.
None of that is being done of course, and we are living through a dystopian circus of centralized socialist medicine. The decisions being made on this data are as good as tossing bones. Decisions are being made on ideology, and what a few in power wish to be true (not what is true). All of this builds in hubris and punishment from the outset.
Real world data is good when it suits the policy makers' agenda, but real world data of equal or better quality is ignored, hidden, or discarded when it doesn't.
It is astounding that today policy makers and their henchmen block ivermectin. The data for ivermectin is as good or better than that of the vaccines for improving the outcomes that matter. There is absolutely NO justification for this. The contradictions built into this policy are ridiculous and definitively expose the whole scam that continues.
I'd addressed both of your concerns throughout the 2 articles, one from BC and one from Alberta, linked in this substack.
The stats are all bullshit. Less testing does find less cases...but this is the same data that's been used to drive fear into the population of Canada and their respective provinces...and it's never met with what they've said...this is basically the entire premise of my substack, disproving the narrative through the provided data.
What does hold true is that the same analytics were used to assess mortality throughout the last 3 years and the fact that it shows more deaths following jabs is very important. Add to this, though the testing averages dropped, as I've shown in the AB version, there is a massive uptick in mortality following the bivalent jabs.
FWIW...I do actually agree with you...just need to lay this out so that others have the facts at their fingertips.
Yes, I believe the vaccines are a primary contributing factor to increases in non-COVID deaths, but there are others like opioids, mental health, etc., that were exacerbated during lock-downs. So it is hard to get an entirely clean read on this.
In my mind the mechanism of action resulting in vaccine deaths is entirely plausible, and has been seen in a variety of case reports, but is not yet fully confirmed to make sweeping conclusions. That said, this question is not confirmed because it largely remains taboo. Importantly, those in positions of power who foisted vaccine mandates upon us don't permit (or want) systematic investigation, autopsies, etc.
One of the key defining features of centralized socialist medicine, is that the people who conceive of a health program, also execute the program, and also end up evaluating the program. Low and behold when their evaluation comes in they conclude they did a wonderful job, and need more money. It is diabolical.
The single most important measures of efficacy Number Needed to Treat, and Number Needed to Harm were completely disregarded (or purposefully muted) for three years. These are the only numbers we ever needed to make an informed choice about the necessity of vaccines. It is nice to see this now being talked about more openly.
The punch line is that the risk of serious harm from C19 is vanishingly small for healthy people; and the benefits of vaccines are rare, and rarer than the harms for most people.
These aren't total deaths nor excess mortality...these are the reported deaths for COVID only by BC Health, making this data hugely important.
More COVID Deaths in 2022 than 2020 and 2021 combined...following vaccinations. It doesn't get any clearer than this, my friend.
Tracking the timeline on testing performed shows that around April testing folded...it was in October, following the release of Bivalent Vaccines, that this number began to spike.
Again...I agree with you. The data is and has always been bullshit...but what is available is very telling and kind of terrifying.
Yes we agree. But I don't think it is fair to highlight that there are more C19 deaths and linking that specifically to vaccines as the cause (I'm not defending them). The number of infections has gone through the roof and that is what happens in successive waves. So making up hypothetical numbers if only 5% of the pop was infected wave 1, 20% in wave 2, 80% in wave 3 theoretically the deaths go up. Of course they should go down if the vaccines were actually effective.
My personal belief is that yes the vaccines are causing direct injury of the endothelial inflammation type, and also causing immune susceptibility and this explains many of the deaths. But the spread of disease has also claimed more victims. However, without autopsies to determine definitive cause of death (registered in ICD10 codes and listed on certificate), all of this is VERY hard to unpack.
Love the punchline!
Excellent article and analysis. Denying the current Covid fatality rates in the boosted population while instituting B.C. bill 36 and still insisting on a vax mandate for healthcare personelle is criminal negligence by B.C. politicians and Public Health Officials
The fact that there isn't an all out rebellion on this is shocking. Enough rage in an already busted system would force this to end in it's tracks...that's not happening.
Shocked!
You are correct on many comments. The numbers in BC are definitely “manipulated” by PH for purposes of creating a FOMO mentality (so, exaggerate V uptake and people will choose to join the crowd AND exaggerate the number of cases and deaths manufacture fear in the, especially urban, population who then run and do as they’re told (for their safety). Sadly, for PH, many non-urbanites or more remote citizens didn’t let fear or FOMO drive their decisions so uptake of V is significantly lower than “reported” in these areas (Queen Bonnie actually implemented greater restrictions for the Okanagan and norther reasons, not for health but to “force” more V uptake).
I believe that many of the medical professionals who practice in northern or remote centres are more likely to move to avoid the unconstitutional Bill 35 requirement for V support (any V the government wants to demand BTW), leaving remote areas EVEN MORE under-serviced for health care and further punishing the non-compliant population.
Urban doctors have, for the most part, bought in and were compliant b/c they have expensive lifestyles that are difficult to replace in another province. PH likely believes they have these doctors, nurses, dentists, physiotherapists, chiropractors, etc (maybe even naturopaths) under their thumbs due to the addiction to financially and living extravagancies (can’t really replace a multimillion dollar home with an ocean and mountain view in North Vancouver with any home in Regina is their expectation).
So, the bill will control the messaging for the higher populated regions where people are more likely to comply WHILE punishing remote professionals and their patients in less compliant regions - WIN-WIN for the autocratic government and their non-elected leader and provincial health civil servants.
Some good thoughts there, James.
I mean...driving up interest rates to the highest in 40 years will have an impact on All classes...making them even more wanting to comply than lose their licenses, jobs and be fined. For those who are professionals but still house poor, it's equally as terrifying as would be to us common folk.
I'd imagine that Healthcare Professionals are not immune to this.
Exactly. People often buy homes to feed their ego and will buy whatever does this at the price their bank said they could finance - meaning that they have to keep working at that salary rate or lose their home. Adding to this for everyone is the reduction of house prices this past year so many owe more on their home than they could sell it for so they can’t sell and move - no equity to buy elsewhere. Doctors aren’t immune to this - especially in bigger cities.
My wife and I gave considered moving from the Fraser Valley to Alberta but our home dropped $200K+ in the past years and prices haven’t dropped proportionately in the areas of Alberta we were considering .. stuck, it seems. How much worse might this be for those actually working and living paycheque to paycheque?
It will be an interesting time ..
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I thought I'd change to paid subscription to support your work, so looked for how to change from free to paid and don't see how.
Hey Allen, the Paid Subscriptions option will be open again on February 1st, 2023.
I'm not going to be around for all of next week, work travel and commitments, so have elected to keep this date in place.
Thank you for your support!
Jesus Christ. We need to make sure that they are welcomed here in the inevitable exodus
Not if they're the ones who went along with this BS. I want the 2500 they haven't rehired yet who refused the shots.
I think you are right... but then again, we were doing temporary work in Nanaimo and got fired from there. Actual colleagues said they are still glad our units shut down from lack of staff than have us unvac.
I suspect you are talking about the pocket of liberty in Interior Health. Keep in mind many US draft dodgers moved there in the 60s and 70s so freedom could be in their blood.
Van Isle has always been an NDP stronghold. SMFH at what is happening with BC. Glad we left in 2014.
You make a good point.
Will do! I want to support key independent journalists/information sources while I still have a job! You are definitely one of them.
Thank you Yakk. I live in bc (sadly) and yes it’s a fire place for anyone who thinks outside the box. How can I make a donation or become a paid subscriber. Want to support your work.
Thanks, Lu.
I've suspended my paid subscriptions until February 1st, 2023. You can become a monthly subscriber - $5/mo or yearly $50/yr, once the link is back up.
I'll be in travel all of next week, won't be publishing anything for this time but should be back in the stack by 3rd or 4th.
It'd be beautiful thing for sure. All your stupid docs can buy our overpriced real estate here as we leave. A fool and his money, you know.